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Had a dream I was in a French train station and there was a family singing for money. The song was in English and French "No, you are not alone". "Non, tu n'es pas seul".

The song was happy, earnest, with such love and caring.

I wish I was a musician so I could turn this into a real song, because I don't know music and I only heard the chorus anyway.

I looked for a real song with this melody, I don't think it exists.

Hackers, Freedonians and Everyone Else...

You may not know me but I produce and edit a Free Software podcast called Libre Lounge. I want to take the podcast in some new directions, either LL itself, or a new podcast with a similar aim, but to do that, I'm going to need some help- production and editing especially. If you have those kinds of skills and can help, please send me a direct message or email me at!

@rchive Lack of affordable daycare, or lack of medical care for the elderly or infirmed means that people (usually women) need to be the ones who compromise their jobs for taking care of their families.

If we had child care or home health care services that were available to those in need, then that would free up those who are looking for a way out of poverty, but as long as those in the most desperate need are forced to make this choice, nothing will change.

@teslas_moustache The episode (it's a regular podcast) is about the ways that full employment increases worker rights.

They also discuss how it doesn't affect all communities equally.

I actually listen to Planet Money regularly and while I don't agree with everything they say, think it's a good show and worthy of thought and consideration.

@teslas_moustache Did you read or listen to the article? From your comment it doesn't appear you did.

Listening to this NPR story about Full Employment:

While the story presents a picture of increasing worker rights, they neglected to mention that the other way to address full employment is to increase the labor market through decreasing the social safety net ala welfare reforms of the 1990s.

If you require people to work (even if they're sick or it would harm their families to do so), then you decrease their individual or collective bargaining power.

Several pieces of email we've gotten to @librelounge has been spam by someone wanting us to link to an article or song of theirs on our podcast.

I've been using this as an opportunity to tell people about Freely Licensed works, and why we would be happy to check their music/article out, but only if it's Free.

Maybe one day someone will actually change their license to fit our requirements. :smile: The fear for me is that "Open Source" has traditionally not been about the ethics. That's changed, slowly, as the leadership of the OSI has changed, but until the core principles of liberty are what people care about, it's easily co-opted.

Yes, Micosoft is an old boogeyman, but I'm providing a roadmap to actual community acceptance

There is a way for Microsoft to show that they're good actor in the space- by relinquishing control and placing core things in the hands of non-profits like Software Freedom Conservancy.

Once they separate out the control from the financial, I'll be much more willing to believe them, but based on their history, it's hard to accept that now.

They could also do something like GSoC. That would also be a great benefit. They already let OSM use Bing Imagery, so it wouldn't be a huge leap.

Bloomberg thinks that Microsoft has won over Open Source. I can't speak for them, but they certainly haven't won over me or any Free Software folks I know.

Every action they've taken is in line with their Halloween Document goals. They've embraced through acquisition, and they've put themselves in the line of information and fiscal flow through controlling Github and now this payment system.

The risk to our community by them taking it away is too great to ignore.

I remember when people wanted to use Bitcoin as a currency, but Coinbase is now pretending it's an investment platform. They also want personal details that not even my banks have in order to send money to other BTC addresses, a functionality it used to have. Bye bye!

@murph One of the arguments I've been hearing is that we should hold shareholders accountable. I'm not sure how one does that with a publicly traded company where many shares are traded in funds.

But when an executive hears "You may be held personally criminally liable." that will have an impact.

For me, it also is a resolution to the issue of some people wanting to cap executive pay at the legal level. Let that be part of their risk assessment, and see where it takes them.

@rune Agreed that Comcast has been one of the most egregious violators, but so is Verizon, collecting fees for universal broadband (fios) but then not delivering.

New York even sued Verizon over this.

My assertion around punishment is root in knowing that fines for a company aren't motivators for people. They just become the cost of doing business. Even personal fines for the ultra-rich don't mean much. Jail time OTOH combined with asset seizure- that'll scare them.

Reading a debate on Reddit about what should happen to Comcast now that they've been found to violate the law >400,00 times.

Some people are saying the corporation is criminal, other say that it should be broken up or nationalized. People complain there are "never repercussions".

If we want real change, then I have a simpler solution- jail time for and seizure of assets owned by senior executives.

If we had real repercussions for white collar crime, that would be an actual deterrent.

Hackerspaces can and will outlive Maker, and Free Software will outlive Open Source, because ultimately movements built on community, principles and people will always live longer than those built on brands and trends.

Don't be sad about Maker Faire. It's just an opportunity for you to create your own community-driven event in your area.


Mixed feelings about Maker Faire shutting down. I feel sad because it was a cool event in principle, but the corporate sponsorship and corporatization of it made me uncomfortable in the same way that Hackerspaces became "Maker Spaces".

If that pattern seemed familiar to how Free Software became co-opted to become Open Source, you have the same man to thank, Tim O'Reilly.

But what this shows us is another clear lesson that we can't build community on "benevolent corporations".


No @librelounge this week as @cwebber is on vacation, but I recorded a show that will be a very different change of pace. I'm curious to see hoe people will react. It'll be released next week (hopefully)!

@drwho So, there's a lot here, and I can't address everything in one message, but I've been thinking about what if we could combine the best of ActivityPub with the features of ScuttleButt after the amazing conversation we had with @joeyh on @librelounge

OMEMO is similar-ish and so you could do similar things. It's a per device key, for example. I have some other ideas too.

If *all* you want is encrypted messages, it's not *too* hard, but I think we also may want some of those other features

@AceNovo What I'm hearing is that you are against capitalism. And I hear your concerns around Mastodon and getting community supporting pull requests in the software.

I don't personally love Webfinger but how does mapping account names to URNs relate to the above concerns?

What am I missing?

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