hate crimes, antisemitism, new project 

I just found out that the school I attended, American University, has had two swastikas, an SS, and a Magen David carved into the dorms.

This is exactly why my current project is so important.

I read about probably once incident like this every day or two, literally.

Don't tell me antisemitism doesn't exist, or any of that nonsense. It's incredibly common and it's scary as heck to be Jewish right now...

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hate crimes, antisemitism, new project 

@emacsen

it may be presumptuos from me but I think it's not just antisemitism

It's antisemitism, it's racism. it's antimuslimness, it's machismo (see abortion), it's antilgbt hatred

it's the same hatred

it's white nationalism

it's extremely similar to what happenedin the 30ies

I know history does not repeat

but the psychological processes at the base of this are the same

And Google and the gafam are blowing on the fire for profit

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hate crimes, antisemitism, new project 

@AbbieNormal

Sorry, but no.

I've received plenty of antisemitism from folks on the left, from gay folks, from trans folks, etc.

I'm not letting them off the hook by saying that antisemitism is a white nationalist problem and I hope you don't either.

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hate crimes, antisemitism, new project 

@emacsen

antisemitism by leftists doesn't negate what I argued

The French communists demonstrated against the military campaign against the Nazist Germany

Nowadays, some leftsts still condemn the american intervention in former Jugoslavia

Reactionary politics and white nationalism extends to the left too

I'm not leaving anyone off the hook

hate crimes, antisemitism, new project 

@AbbieNormal

> antisemitism by leftists doesn't negate what I argued

It doesn't. What concerns me though is I've seen this continual "othering" of antisemitism, as in "It's not my group that has this problem, it's this other group.", like "It's not *my* political party, it's just some in leadership", etc.

This story hit me hard because that's my university, where I went to school.

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hate crimes, antisemitism, new project 

@emacsen

I understand, I can only extend my hugs

And I whish you the best for your project

hate crimes, antisemitism, new project 

@AbbieNormal

I don't actually like bringing up antisemitism. It makes me uncomfortable. It makes me a target.

But in the last few years, I don't feel like I have a choice. Things are at a boiling point.

I wouldn't feel safe going back to my country of birth.

I wouldn't feel safe in many places.

And now even my beloved city of NYC doesn't feel safe, and neither do many universities.

The fediverse too.

So I'm speaking up/speaking out.

hate crimes, antisemitism, new project 

@emacsen

I experienced discomfort by a person I was having an affair with in showing affection in the street

Or on the beach (not the gay one)

Let alone what's happening with the lgbt issue on tv, here

Yes, speaking up and making yourself a target is necessary

I think I can say I relate to that

maybe the lgbt issue is not as transversal as antisemitism is, that's true

hate crimes, antisemitism, new project 

@emacsen

I also know that antisemitism is a thing in the blm field

I didn't mean to negate that

hate crimes, antisemitism, new project 

@AbbieNormal

And the Free Software world as well.

hate crimes, antisemitism, new project 

@emacsen

the free software world is just littered with general right wing politics

but I take that you're referring to the left leaning free software world 😕

antisemitism 

@AbbieNormal @emacsen Our societies have a special driving force for hating Jews. It cannot be explained as a side-effect of colonialism, classism or anything else, it can only be explained as hate on Jews holding a place of its own in modern and medieval European-descent history.

There is no "pragmatic" or "opportunistic" us and them. Jewish members of society generally aren't poor and relying on welfare. Jewish families have generally been around for decades or centuries, they're not coming from abroad and looking or speaking different. Jewish people are not displacing white people in the job market, there aren't enough Jews outside Israel for that to be a thing, outside the US even fewer.

In Sweden you may go your whole life without ever meeting a person of Jewish descent, and yet far-right narratives talk about the influence of Jews everywhere. It's downright bizarre unless you trace the lines back through history and see the damage that has been done and continues to be done. The Holocaust was not a freak incident, it was typical in every way except its scale.

Antisemitism exists because of stories told specifically about Jews for centuries, fomented at various times by the Catholic Church, Martin Luther, Nazis and society at large whenever an Other had to be blamed for society's ills and whenever an Other was needed to explain why some grand conspiracy would exist. Antisemitism has its own special traditions, symbols and other memes. It's not just another flavor of generic racism and xenophobia.

antisemitism 

@clacke @emacsen

I see what you mean but I disagree

I think the psycological process at the base of antisemitism is the same

it's true that historically antisemtism has its specificity

but that's because the women issue and the lgbt issue and the way people can move today are relatively recent

antisemitism 

@clacke @emacsen

that same psycological proccess is at the base of religious integralism, political integralism (think maoism) and at the base of negationism

antisemitism 

@clacke @emacsen

I'm drawing this conclusion from a book, specifically

you can read it on line here
luigidemarchi.wordpress.com/sc

I undertsand there's no English translation but there's a German one

antisemitism 

@clacke @emacsen

the same author published the same ideas in another book too that's more academic

maybe there is an English translation for the second one

ibs.it/shock-primario-radici-d

antisemitism 

@clacke @emacsen

I think the historical specificity of antisemitism is just contingent

The jewish identity lends itself particularry well to the psycological process the book describes

antisemitism 

@AbbieNormal @clacke

Jews have a unique experience of being persecuted for 3000 years.

And the excuses for it are always conveniently inconsistent.

Jews are attacked for being too rich, for being too poor, for being too foreign, for being white, for not being "pure", for not assimilating, for "hiding amongst the people", for being too intellectual, for rejecting "reason", for being communists, for being capitalists, for having foreign "loyalties" etc.

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

Ok, I won't go on

I'll just point out that the author of those books is not suspicious of any hint of antisemitism

antisemitism 

@AbbieNormal @clacke

I don't think you are, I just think you fall into the trap of trying to "reason it" or "justify it" as part of something larger.

The problem is that when you do that, it's a form of erasure.

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

admittedly I was tryng to make it part of something larger

Not justifying it, just explaining it

But if that amounts to erasure, I'll take some time to think this over

I didn't mean to attempt any erasure, I'm sorry if I was mistaken

antisemitism 

@AbbieNormal @clacke

I didn't think you meant harm by it, but there are two forces at play.

First, any time one person "intellectualizes" hate, it's walking dangerous ground. It's very hard to do well, and there's a tendency to "justify" it in a sesne.

Secondly, antisemitism is unique in that it's not a limited time issue, and that the justifications always shift and change. It has a tendency to lead to "If they only did ___, they'd be okay" and it's never true.

antisemitism 

@AbbieNormal @clacke

This ties into the belief that many Jews have (particularly North American Jews) that if they assimilate, they'll be accepted.

Jews have always had this conflict of assimilation vs not- it's even in the Hebrew Bible! Many Jews, including me, struggle or have struggled with it.

It's part of the search for peace from persecution that Jews are constantly seeking, but never actually find.

That's why understanding antisemitism is different is important.

EOF :)

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

Ok, assumed that I gave up on my attempts to make antisemitism a part of something larger, I think it can be helpful to briefly illustrate the thesis of the books I mentioned

This has to do (in my opinion) with the (lack of) time limitedness of antisemtism and with the arguments "if they had just.."

(deep breath)

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

The main idea of the author is tha the human species is the only liveing species (as far as we know) exposed to the awareness of being destined to die

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

he believes that the cultures that humanites have created along its history are huge building around the anguish of death

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

he uses this perspective to explain the evolution of the phenomenon that's otherwise studied by what we call "scienze politiche", science of politics

not just recently but from the beginning of humanity

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

he explores ancient and far away indigenous cultures (with a hint of anthropology)

He explores literature, culture in general

he argues, among other things, that urbanization started as a need to be close to graves to practices rituals related to the dead

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

he argues that religion has been a human creation to oppose the death anguish

the ethernal life, partculary

the divine judjgement and the need to appease the God(s) is seen as a psycological desperate reaction to the terror of being destined to rot

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

then he goes on to the political rvolutions and he applies the same argument

the new man promised by revolutions is just another defense against the death anguish

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

so the idea is that "others" threath our integrity towards the divinities and put our salvation in jeopardy

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

Admittedly the author doesn't simplify the nazi experience

That was me

I think the author was jewsh himself, I'm not sure

I just was superficial in believing I could make this analogy in a probably too simplistic way

antisemitism 

@emacsen @clacke

I just found the book compelling

I think it explains evil in a way that is more convincing and less prone to contrdictions than any other way I know

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@emacsen @AbbieNormal

I was reading some story based on the War, maybe it was Wheels of Terror, and one camp general says that killing the blonde blue-eyed Catholic Jews is the hardest (it feels wrong because they look like worthy humans and I want to throw up now), but you know, gotta do it because the law says they're Jews. I have no reason to believe this scene and the sentiment was entirely made up by the author.

Give up your name and traditions and intermarry? Congratulations, now your family is considered one of undercover, infiltrating Cryptojews *and* you've cut ties with the only community that will support you.

I have no way to imagine what this experience is like.
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