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There are many people calling for a new political party in the US for Republicans who feel unhappy because their party doesn't represent them. This would split the Trump party folks from the others.

I have unfortunate news for anyone looking to start a political party in the US... the American system of government has been optimized to prevent the success of any third party, of any political viewpoint, and thus to encourage collaboration and collation.

The US isn't parliamentarian.

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uspol 

@emacsen That would be why people want the republican party to split, yes.

uspol 

@ari

I want very much to have a parliamentarian type system in the, US, or at least something that would allow more political diversity of views.

The two political parties have created a lock on third parties, which is why it's so incredibly difficult for them to have any real impact.

uspol 

@emacsen I think you're missing what I said though: if The Patriot Party spins off and peels the hardcore Trump supporters off the Republican party, it means that so long as it exists neither it nor Republicans can hold meaningful power. This is why we should encourage the new political party as much as is practical.

uspol 

@ari

I didn't address what you wrote in any way. It's clear from your subsequent post that you think a split would be a good thing because it would dilute the power of the right.

This would have two possible effects, one negative and one positive. The positive would be the introduction of a process by which third parties could come into power and wield influence. This would be good for progressive, libertarians, etc. as well as the Trumpers and Republicans.

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uspol 

@ari

The possible negative effect could be a complete dilution of the power base of the right. While certainly a win in the short term, a political party without a process of checks and balances would be a recipe for disaster by concentrating all the power and influence in that one party.

Whatever we think of the right, if the goal is to split the right in order to create a mono-party, then that would be a real end to democracy in the US.

uspol 

@emacsen The positive doesn't really exist imo since it'd be impossible to elect yourself into a society that's actually *good* (of course you think differently on that matter.) Worst case with all power in the hands of the Democrats is *basically* that we just end up where we are now. Best case is that they're a mild improvement because they flounder without the compromise excuse. Either way it's better in terms of harm reduction.

uspol 

@emacsen Don't say that! If the Trump folk choose to split from the rest of the Republicans, they destroy their chances of success! I'd ask for anything to keep Alberta white surpremacists from feeling any sort of legitimacy!

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