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Why do so few email clients support bounce? It's so incredibly useful!

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@emacsen in the client? Seems if it got to the client it by definition did not bounce?

@eludom @eludom
@AbbieNormal

Bounce is a command that is "Re-send this message to a new destination-. It's also called remail and redirect, apparently.

I am finding surprisingly little about it. I first encountered it in Pine, then VM, then Mutt. There's a plugin for Thunderbird, apparently, but it seems few people know about it!

@emacsen
I think Gnus has both a resend and an edit-and-then-resend command.

@emacsen @AbbieNormal notmuch-emacs interface (my current mail clinet) supports it "b" bound to notmuch-show-resend-message). Pretty sure GNUS, which I used for about a decade, supported it.

Just trying to figure out why/when you would bounce/resend as opposed to forward.

@emacsen @eludom @AbbieNormal doesn't bounce try to resend the message with the original sender intact? Modern anti-spam measures will complain.

@humberto @eludom @AbbieNormal

Do you have any evidence on the anti-spam measures? Because by that logic, BCC won't work either and I've never encountered any issues with BCC or Bounce

@emacsen @eludom @AbbieNormal No, just wondering why clients don't support bouncing. I installed mailredirect in my thunderbird, and it seems to work fine. I do see SPF Softfails, but the emails arrive fine. I used to bounce emails into our helpdesk all the time, but clients no longer provide the option.

@humberto @eludom @AbbieNormal

I wonder if you're not seeing something else concurrently.

The envelope header will be the actual sender, and that doesn't need to match the body sender.

@emacsen

May well be. I'm glad to see bounces working in thunderbird again, thanks for the nudge.

@emacsen Found this in the description of the mailredirect plugin for Thunderbird: "Not all email providers support redirection of messages. Most notably Microsoft does not support it at the moment, probably as a measure against SPAM. I think they do this in error, and also reported this to Microsoft, but unfortunately they haven't changed their policy yet"
addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/t

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