The gf is sick and since we're in NYC she had to see a doctor in the US. We didn't get to see an actual doctor, only a doctor's assistant and a medical scribe.

Somehow they can offer a perscription for drugs?

And got a lecture from said doctor's assistant on his "extensive research" on other medical systems and their "long wait times". He didn't ask about what countries she's been under (three different ones, for the record) or her experience, just mansplained at her with me in the room.

@emacsen That's not only awful and bizarre, but what even? I find it funny how here in Canada I pay a little extra taxes and I can see a doctor whenever I like immediately so long as I make plans. I can get everything I need done for free, so long as I don't need a specialist and even then, the government takes care of certain fees.

So much for his extensive research.

@Lofenyy I have mixed feelings about Canada's healthcare system.

The US's is a tragedy, but Canada's is massively underfunded, effecting Canadian's quality of life as well as its economy. It's better than the US, for sure, but far from perfect, especially when the health issue is quality of life and not life or death.

The more time in Canada that I spend, the more cynical I am about it. It's better than the US in many ways, but not the paradise it is often portrayed as.

@emacsen Paradise compared to the US. What are other systems like?

@Lofenyy I don't know other systems well. I've only lived in the US, and spend time in Canada.

The gf has lived in three countries, each with slightly different systems.

I've heard amazing things about France's medical system and yet they only spend a bit more than Canada.

The issues in Canada relate to things like my shoulder surgery. I went to see a specialist about it. He basically told me I seemed fine, but ordered an MRI.


@Lofenyy Reviewing the MRI, he said I was OK and didn't need surgery.

He said I should take an injection of cortisone. I asked what that would do and he had no answer.

This was the lead orhopedic surgeon at NYU.

I went to see a private specialist who said I needed surgery for a torn labium.

Turns out both sides of my labium were torn, and by bicep was torn and mangled. He couldn't even surgery orthopedically because it was so bad.

I had to pay him out of pocket for the surgery.


@Lofenyy If I'd been in Canada, I would have had a long wait for the specialist, a long wait for the MRI and I'm not sure if I could have gotten a second opinion.

Yes, the surgery would have been free though.

It sucked to have to go to a private doctor for the procedure, but at least I had the option.

In Canada, a doctor is not legally allowed to do offer private patients.


@Lofenyy Neither sysdtem is good in this case. The US required me to pay OOP and Canada, who knows if I would have gotten treatment and how long it would have taken.

For someone like me who was taking pain meds daily for such a long time and wasn't able to do many activities, quality of life matters though, and that's where Canada'a lack of funding its system really matters.

Canadians deserve better and Canada can do better.

@emacsen I agree, and I do actually see this quite a bit in Canada.

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