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Bloomberg thinks that Microsoft has won over Open Source. I can't speak for them, but they certainly haven't won over me or any Free Software folks I know.

Every action they've taken is in line with their Halloween Document goals. They've embraced through acquisition, and they've put themselves in the line of information and fiscal flow through controlling Github and now this payment system.

The risk to our community by them taking it away is too great to ignore.

dailyherald.com/business/20190

There is a way for Microsoft to show that they're good actor in the space- by relinquishing control and placing core things in the hands of non-profits like Software Freedom Conservancy.

Once they separate out the control from the financial, I'll be much more willing to believe them, but based on their history, it's hard to accept that now.

They could also do something like GSoC. That would also be a great benefit. They already let OSM use Bing Imagery, so it wouldn't be a huge leap.

@emacsen
I'm enjoying using Sourcehut from @sir instead of github these days.

@emacsen I think the truth is that open source as an idea has won. It just doesn't look that way because consumer desktops are a lot more visible to us than embedded devices and cloud servers.

The worry now is large tech companies co-opting it (Microsoft is not the only one doing this, the community is just more wary of them as "the old enemy") or making critical infrastructure dependent on components that may only have one or a handful of unpaid volunteers instead of actually contributing.

@TreacherousNexus The fear for me is that "Open Source" has traditionally not been about the ethics. That's changed, slowly, as the leadership of the OSI has changed, but until the core principles of liberty are what people care about, it's easily co-opted.

Yes, Micosoft is an old boogeyman, but I'm providing a roadmap to actual community acceptance

@TreacherousNexus @emacsen
I would argue that open source as a business practice in the tech industry has won. Open source as a vehicle to user liberty never won, it reached a historic peak that wasn't especially high in the 1990s and has been deteriorating since.

As an side, I consider Microsoft a threat to free software and user freedom but in the present day I see Google as a dramatically larger threat.

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